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College Football Season Win Totals: Oregon

College Football Season Win Totals: Oregon

Ever wondered how a bookmaker sets college football season win totals? Recently I read a very good article called Creating a Win Total by Todd Fuhrman, the Race and Sports Analyst at Ceasars Palace in Las Vegas. In the article Todd describes how he goes about setting college football season win totals.

Setting College Football Season Win Totals

Using the 2012 schedule for USC he illustrates his process of rating each game 0 to 10, with a 10 meaning a virtual lock (a USC win) and 0 implying that USC stood absolutely no chance of winning (needless to say there were no 0’s on the schedule). At the end he “adds up the total and attaches appropriate juice based on intangibles, public perception, and an overall gut feel.”

The overall number he came up with for USC was 103, or 10.3 wins. He then considers is USC more  likely to go 11-1, 10-2, or 9-3?

“In my opinion, I believe they’re much more likely to go 10-2 or 11-1 than 9-3 so I’m immediately inclined to start with 10.5 because there are only 2 outcomes in my mind for this season. At this juncture, it then becomes a question of opinion and steering action with my two best options looking like the following”

10 over -150


10.5 Under -160

USC’s current line at 5Dimes is:

Over 9.5  -260

Under 9.5 +180

Setting Oregon’s Season Win Totals

Oregon TD CelebrationAfter I had finished reading the article, which he concludes with some good nuggets of advice, it got me to thinking about the process he used to determine college football season win totals and how it might be applied to other teams.

So I decided to try and emulate this process to determine the season win totals for PAC 12 North favorite Oregon.

Below is Oregon’s 2012 football schedule. The probability I place of winning each game is bolded to the right of each opponent.

Sat, Sep 01          Arkansas State  (10)

Sat, Sep 08          Fresno State  (10)

Sat, Sep 15          Tennessee State  (10)

Sat, Sep 22          Arizona  (9)

Sat, Sep 29          vs Washington State (in Seattle)  (8)

Sat, Oct 06          Washington  (8)

Thu, Oct 18          @ Arizona State  (8)

Sat, Oct 27          Colorado  (10)

Sat, Nov 03          @ USC  (5)

Sat, Nov 10          @ California  (6)

Sat, Nov 17          Stanford  (8)

Sat, Nov 24          Oregon State  (7)

The total I came up with for Oregon is 99, or 9.9 wins for the 2012 season. Oregon’s current line at 5Dimes is:

Over 9.5 (-195)

Under 9.5 (+155)

So my number for Oregon’s season win totals is definitely in the ball park. Using Todd’s process I believe the Ducks are more likely to go 10-2 (or 11-1) than they are to go 9-3.

Quick Thoughts for Each Oregon Game

Arkansas State, Fresno State and Tennessee Tech – with all three games being played in Autzen I cannot see any of these teams having even a remote chance of beating the Ducks.

Arizona – the conference opener for each team and Arizona’s first away game of the season. If the Cats can pull a home upset against Oklahoma State on September 8th, they should be 3-0 and full of confidence. However, with their current personnel and new coaching staff, going into Autzen and beating the Ducks looks like a gargantuan task.

“You know I’ve always liked that word gargantuan. So rarely have an opportunity to use it in a sentence.”

Washington State – Oregon’s first away trip of the season, but still not a true road game as they play the Cougars in Seattle. I like Mike Leach and I like some of the skill players WSU has on offense. But defensively Oregon should have the advantage. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cougars played them tough, but can’t see them being within striking distance in the end.

Washington – Huskies will be battle tested having gone to Baton Rouge on September 8th and playing Stanford the previous week in Seattle. But once again, this game is at Autzen and is a heated rivalry, so there is no reason why Oregon won’t be prepared to play. Lastly, similar to the Washington State game, I don ‘t have much faith in UW’s defense.

Arizona State –  Finally a true road game, and against my beloved Sun Devils no less. Time for the Ducks to taste defeat …….. OK, it sounded good, but I just don’t see it happening. I watched the ASU spring game and if it was at all indicative of this team’s makeup, there will be serious issues on the defensive side of the ball.

Colorado – Seriously? The Fluffs in Autzen? No chance.

USC –  MASSIVE GAME. Winner most likely gets the home field advantage for the PAC 12 Championship game and rematch in early December. I rate this game as a coin toss.

California – If the Ducks are going to lose another game on their schedule (besides USC), this is it. Oregon will be coming off a huge game the previous week vs the Trojans., so this could be a big letdown spot. Bears get an extra day to prepare having played UW the previous Friday and the game is in Memorial Stadium, where Cal is typically very tough to beat.

Stanford – Despite the loss of the # 1 pick, I believe Stanford will be a better team than most people expect. Nevertheless, they couldn’t beat the Ducks the last 2 years with Luck at QB, so tough to see them going into Eugene and pulling off the upset.

Oregon State – I went back and forth between a 6 or a 7 here. It is The Civil War and it is in Corvallis.  Beavers look to be an improved team and will certainly be pumped up to play their bitter rivals. But I ended up going with a 7 because I don’t think Oregon State is as good as Cal and the Ducks  certainly won’t be in the same ideal “letdown” spot that they will be when they travel to Berkeley.

Ducks Season Win Totals:  10

Oregon Cheerleaders

Oregon Cheerleaders

So there you have it.  The only team I see on Oregon’s schedule that can match them from a talent perspective is USC. And with that game being in the LA Coliseum, it is the only game I see Oregon NOT being favored in, at least at this early stage in the season.

The Cal game has upset written all over it. That doesn’t mean it will happen, but I believe it will be without a doubt the next toughest game on the Ducks schedule and it would not surprise me in the least if they lost that game.

That’s 10-2. Where is that third loss coming from? Based on what we know right now, finding a third loss on this schedule will require a major upset by one of the middle-tier PAC 12 schools.

So if I were a betting man …….….. Wait a minute …. Never mind. But if I were betting I would go over the 9.5 wins that 5Dimes currently has posted. However, as Todd states at the end of his article “more has to go right for a team to eclipse their win total rather than underachieve and fall short of expectations.” And with juice at -195, I personally wouldn’t touch it.

Let me know what you think of the process and where I may have possibly made an error in projecting Oregon’s season win totals. Also feel free to let me know what methods you use to determine college football season win totals – Pez.


2 Responses to “College Football Season Win Totals: Oregon”

  1. GoSooners GoSooners says:

    Tim…In any other year I’m thinking 5Dimes would have gone ahead and set USC’s win total at 10.5. But I suspect they are hedging their bets a little in this case with the lower total because USC is so thin at some key positions. The Trojans starting 22 probably has the most talent in the league. But if they start to incur some injuries along the way, the over for that 9.5 win total may not look so good in November as it does right now in April. Because of that reason alone, I think paying the -260 juice isn’t a good bet. 5Dimes isn’t dumb. I’m betting this is exactly what is going through their heads with this team. There’s nothing worse than playing undermanned and injured with a lot of hype and a big fat target on your back. The Sooners can tell all about it after their injury plagued 2011 season after being the fave to win the conference.

    • Pezgordo Pezgordo says:

      GS, -260 juice is ridiculous. With juice that high at over 9.5 the bookmakers seem to be saying that they think USC will go 10-2 if everything falls into place for them, but one slip up to an inferior team (like last year at ASU) and everyone who paid that heavy juice is screwed.

      If anything I would be tempted to give the under +180 a shot because as we have discussed on several occasions the Trojans do not have a lot of margin for error with their depth issues.


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